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Zahr Dalsk · Oct 15, 2007, 07:44 PM // 19:44

Nothing all that bad yet aside from our guild being in an inactive alliance... luckily we took the few active members into our guild (I said 'We're in ur alliance, stealin' ur doodz' whenever we brought someone over) and have started a new alliance, hopefully to be more active.

elektra_lucia · Oct 15, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Omg that's too funny xD.

"We're in ur alliance, stealin' ur doodz".

Tarja · Oct 15, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05

Not meaning to get after some people, but please keep Guild names and tags out of the thread, just so a mod doesn't close it for flaming and such.

Keeping with the theme;

There was a faction farming guild I was in for a brief two days. It was a rather large guild of about 80+ people or so, and it was so impersonal. The officers only cared about recruiting, and once they got these recruits, they had nothing to do with them afterwards. I suppose this is the downside of a large guild (not all), but there was no interaction. There was such a high turnover in this guild, that no one knew each other. When the guild grouped up, the feeling was like just grabbing a PUG.

Kusandaa · Oct 18, 2007, 12:08 PM // 12:08

I think my worst experience is when I was leading a guild; that's what happens when you don't really have a goal - or don't follow it and let people take over.

A while after I started playing, I've decided to make my own guild. They say it's always better to start with a friend, so I got a friend of mine to help me, and it worked. There was a slight problem; the friend was from UK. I'm Canadian. My playtimes were in the morning before classes, and late at night because I could stay up since my classes started at 2pm or 6pm. So of course, a lot of times I wound up alone online.

This guy invited a bunch of people in. I didn't mind, I wanted a big guild anyways. He was a GvG guy, and I absolutely hated GvG; but GvG was the lure to get more people. But you can imagine that a UK guy... invites UK people. They tried to get me into it, and me being too nice I agreed to a few matches. I sucked horribly. I asked them for builds and such, and they kept telling me that I could run anything, but then would yell at me because I sucked.... yet they'd ask me the next weekend, and would yell at me again... then they'd go nuts at the rank.

So stuck in a GvG guild when you're a PvE-only player; with UK people while you're Canadian...

... means that your PvE leader will appoint a random guy as a leader and quit GW for 3 months.

Surena · Oct 18, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29

Getting invited by a PUG leader and made guild leader on the 3rd day after he raged on all his guildies (about 38). It was hilarious.

Suddenly I had an empire...

Rinadan Farhunt · Oct 18, 2007, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Mine would have to be this:

In the beginning, it was really a very nice guild. But then a complete arse was made officer. He then started to be offensive to most of our members and to go into detail about sexual activity on alliance chat. I gathered a group of other guild members (including another officer) who wanted this guy demoted, and for once he was sensible and decided to resign. Guild leader comes on next day. Arse is re-promoted (despite all the protests from many guild members). I leave. About 3-4 months later, the same officer who I was friends with and who had sided with me against the Arse asked me to come back. Arse had gone. Along with over half the guild, to form their own guild, because Arse + co had started a big argument, camps were formed, etc. So, now most of the remaining members are inactive. After this great disaster, the leader's method of helping the guild was to bugger off on holiday for a month without designating someone to be in charge while she was gone, and leaving no instructions. I agree to come back. Officers haven't got a clue what they should do, my friend says he asked me back because of my good organisation/command abilities, so it seemed to fall to me to save my once-favourite guild. I rallied the officers and remaining active members to confront the leader when she returned. I told her what she should do to help the situation (I had seen this happen before), and she did everything I said, and now the guild is well on the way to recovery. What thanks did I get? After being leader for 2-3 weeks in all but name, I was given a promotion to officer, and the leader now ignores myself and the two other officers (one of which was promoted without the consent or even knowledge of myself and the other officer). We have no say in anything, her decision is apparently final, and I don't really want to speak out because that could undo all my work and start the arguing/camps/leaving all over again...

matthew1234 · Oct 21, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

in my old guild that i was leader of i invited this person who said he wanted to be in my guild he was in the guild for like 5mins and left he wispered a officer in the guild to invite him back then 1min later he left he keeped doing this to evryone in the guild i said to evryone not to invite him altogether he made me and my peeps lose 2k altogether

Angelo Dorato · Oct 21, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

My worst guild experience was when I first started playin GW. I wasnt totally noob at the game (

) as I had a friend who had been playin for over a year, and taught me prette much anything to hav a basic knowledge. A random guy PM's me to get into his guild. I eagerly accept, and enter his guild. It was a small guild, nearly 20 members, and I very quickly enterd the group. We started havin fun, talking to eachother on TS just for the fun of it, stayed up till late just to say some BS and laugh together. I was made officer after the first month. I got into a very good friendship with the 2 leaders and this girl officer. Especially with the girl (dont think bad, im 16 and she was like 20 XD ). The Thing that killed me and my relationship with this wonderful guild, was her. She had this kind of "love" for the guild leader, and for some reason, he ddnt relle "follow" her as she wanted. Now, I have to say that during those times I started to play GW, I wasnt relle feelin that well, had alot of problems in RL, and GW was prette much, with thoese guildies, the only way I felt better, as they could cheer me up relle good, especially this girl, which I got into a relle good friendship, or so I thought... Coming back to the story, she one day PM'ed me tellin me that she wanted to leave the guild, for the guild leader (1 of the 2) had been a real arse with her, makin her cry (heard her on TS doing so...). As she relle had helped me (in my RL as I stated b4) I followed her out of the guild, makin the leaders both pissed, as I was one of the most active/frendly players in the guild. She joined a friend's guild, and invited me too in it. Couple week passed, and she slowly started to ignore me, slowly, but still it could be felt. That's where I found out what "friendship" for her actually was. Using people to get money/weps/favors. Nothing else. I got relle angry finding that out, and cutted all the connections I had with her. I tried to talk to the old guild leaders, but they wouldnt listen, even tho they knew the truth I was telling them.
Now im in a Dutch guild

even tho I'm Italian. Luckly for my (not perfect but decent) english skills, we can communicate and hav alot of fun. Been nearly 3 months I guess now, and I'm happy where I am

Thorondor Port · Oct 22, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46

Too many hoh guilds to name...but I wish some of them stuck around for more than a week.
Also, the tons of spiritway guilds. Just too boring to play repetitively.

Reinfire · Oct 26, 2007, 10:15 AM // 10:15

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Akaten Talon · Oct 26, 2007, 01:39 PM // 13:39

ITs a GAME dude lol "Bitter end" whats that Lol.

Back on topic.

I would have to say my worst experience would be when i joined a guild and they all switched to Runescape -_-yea I know its scary but try to stay calm.

Talon

ZeRG! · Oct 26, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54

had 2 people leave yesterday cause i beat em in a scrim :\ They asked me to scrim them. and i had to play a warrior. so i played hammer war with counter blow. lol so i kept knocking them down and they raged and quit... wtf do they expect!! they had glads defense and troll unguent.. jesus.. haha

Goldleader · Oct 26, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05

My worst experience:

A year or so ago I was invited to join a top ranked guild in the game. In fact, they were the "guild of the week" around that time and seemed to have everything going for them.

Then I login the day after being invited, only to find like 2 people online. I looked at the guild list, and everyone had logged out like 21-22 hours ago. I asked where everyone was and the leader said everyone usually logs in about 2-3 hours from now. Apparently they are west coasters, while I'm on the east coast. Damn 3 hour time difference!

After about 2 weeks of not being online when the rest of them were, I ended up getting booted. Truth is, I was thinking of leaving anyhow, I was just depressed I was in a top ranked guild, but couldn't play when they could.

Billiard · Oct 26, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23

Please keep things on topic, and don't name players, guilds, or alliances in posts.

jrk247 · Oct 26, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Worst guild experience.

It's not really a guild experience but it has become one. The guild I'm in is the head of an alliance that was before this bad experience very strong and we were good friends. Then one day someone suggested we add a guild to the alliance and we added them. Then some time passed and they seemed alright. But after a few dramatic misunderstandings they started to act up. Our guild leader at the time was busy with real life issues and the officers had to deal with the drama the best they could with what power they had. So after a few of these misunderstandings a few of our members left and joined up with this guild and then they started whispering officers back and forth trying to gain support about some of these misunderstandings within the alliance. So they eventually left our alliance and took some of our good friends/guilds with them. And now after a few months our main leaders of our guild are getting PM's from the leader of the guild that was disband and reformed into another guild (she is no longer a guild leader). And several of our wiki pages have been vandalised from them and our guild wiki page. I find it funny that someone would try this much to cause people grief over a game. They still continue to "stalk" (yes that's what it seems like if you've seen all of what they've done) certain members. It's actually kinda sad to see someone spend so much time doing this and finding ways around security options in the game to do this. They aparently found a way around the ignore list in the game. I just hope this person grows up and realises it's just a game because this is going too far. And that is one of my worst guild experiences.

Issac · Oct 27, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Same experience that most other people had.

Was a leader of a guild and one of the officers kicked all the members etc etc lol.

Yanman.be · Oct 27, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

Every guild I join dies because I suck the lifeforce out of them. This is true.

Alex Morningstar · Oct 27, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

I doubt my experience was unique. We had a leader that never logged in, so the officers kept this large pve 80+ guild active and rolling, along with it's alliance of smaller, but budding guilds. People were constantly talking on guild chat and alliance chat, and it wasn't full of annoying 15 year olds that couldn't spell.

When the leader did log on, she was hardly supportive of her 'staff' and compared us officers to slave drivers, when everyone knows you can't just let 80 members do whatever they want on guild/alliance chat or things deteriorate.

Anyway, she was finally able to hand over the guild because once a month logging in wasn't enough. It wasn't to any one person either, but a mule account that the officers had the password to to keep it the way it had been for a year now, a counsel-like rule.

The guild was going well, minus the undercurrent tension between leader and all her officers, the members took the transition and the news well and were hardly surprised, it was just making how it had been for a while official.

Less than a day later, she logged in screaming that she changed her mind. We gave her back her spot and left, having had enough. We only stayed because other than her, this guild had absolutely wrong with it. It says a lot when all of your officers and then half your guild leave in the space of a week, the rest trickling away for the next couple of months.

That leader, killed her 2 year old guild.

40 people left with us within a week, and we didn't have to whisper them telling them why, they just asked for invites. We were added to the alliance so that guildies could continue to hang out with those that stayed, but were ultimately kicked.

A few days later, after 40 people left, she changed her mind. But it was too late and we still have the new guild with the same 40 people since conception, 8 months later. Plus, our name is cooler.

thedeadlyassassin · Oct 28, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35

My worst guild experience was when my guild got from rank 777 to rank N/A without tourneys. And they NEVER listened to everyone elses build, they were sure that a build that had no anti gank would work... so we always got ganked and lost.

Well99 · Nov 02, 2007, 04:35 AM // 04:35

Pretty much the same story as everyone else.Guilds wanting you just to FF or if you dont pvp running their mouths about you doing it or else.I take the else.I am strickly PVE.I always let a recruiter know that.Also I would join a guild and no one helps out.I would jump in and in most cases others would not.A member for 2 days and I had helped more people then all combined.I thought that was what guilds were suppose to be about.You can farm anytime.It seemed like maybe 1 or 2 would actually help out in the guilds I joined.To me that seemed lame.Well I have my own guild and there is 2 of us.Only person I have invited is a old D friend.We use to always jump in and help folks in games especially Ancients in hell mode.Anyhow to make a short story long Guilds spend to much time recruiting and too little time retaining.

Oct 21, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16	#27
matthew1234 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2007 Guild: worshippers of the white mantle Profession: E/Mo	my bad guild experence =( in my old guild that i was leader of i invited this person who said he wanted to be in my guild he was in the guild for like 5mins and left he wispered a officer in the guild to invite him back then 1min later he left he keeped doing this to evryone in the guild i said to evryone not to invite him altogether he made me and my peeps lose 2k altogether

Oct 26, 2007, 10:15 AM // 10:15	#30
Reinfire Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2006 Location: Amsterdam, NL Guild: The Guild of Cunning Artificiers [ANKH] Profession: W/	Post removed Last edited by Reinfire; Nov 06, 2007 at 11:27 PM // 23:27..

Oct 15, 2007, 07:44 PM // 19:44	#21
Zahr Dalsk Grotto Attendant Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada	Nothing all that bad yet aside from our guild being in an inactive alliance... luckily we took the few active members into our guild (I said 'We're in ur alliance, stealin' ur doodz' whenever we brought someone over) and have started a new alliance, hopefully to be more active.

Oct 15, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53	#22
elektra_lucia Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England Guild: Leteci is [sexy] Profession: Mo/	Omg that's too funny xD. "We're in ur alliance, stealin' ur doodz".

Oct 15, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05	#23
Tarja Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada	Not meaning to get after some people, but please keep Guild names and tags out of the thread, just so a mod doesn't close it for flaming and such. Keeping with the theme; There was a faction farming guild I was in for a brief two days. It was a rather large guild of about 80+ people or so, and it was so impersonal. The officers only cared about recruiting, and once they got these recruits, they had nothing to do with them afterwards. I suppose this is the downside of a large guild (not all), but there was no interaction. There was such a high turnover in this guild, that no one knew each other. When the guild grouped up, the feeling was like just grabbing a PUG.

Oct 18, 2007, 12:08 PM // 12:08	#24
Kusandaa Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: N/Mo	I think my worst experience is when I was leading a guild; that's what happens when you don't really have a goal - or don't follow it and let people take over. A while after I started playing, I've decided to make my own guild. They say it's always better to start with a friend, so I got a friend of mine to help me, and it worked. There was a slight problem; the friend was from UK. I'm Canadian. My playtimes were in the morning before classes, and late at night because I could stay up since my classes started at 2pm or 6pm. So of course, a lot of times I wound up alone online. This guy invited a bunch of people in. I didn't mind, I wanted a big guild anyways. He was a GvG guy, and I absolutely hated GvG; but GvG was the lure to get more people. But you can imagine that a UK guy... invites UK people. They tried to get me into it, and me being too nice I agreed to a few matches. I sucked horribly. I asked them for builds and such, and they kept telling me that I could run anything, but then would yell at me because I sucked.... yet they'd ask me the next weekend, and would yell at me again... then they'd go nuts at the rank. So stuck in a GvG guild when you're a PvE-only player; with UK people while you're Canadian... ... means that your PvE leader will appoint a random guy as a leader and quit GW for 3 months.

Oct 18, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29	#25
Surena Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2007 Profession: N/Me	Getting invited by a PUG leader and made guild leader on the 3rd day after he raged on all his guildies (about 38). It was hilarious. Suddenly I had an empire...

Oct 18, 2007, 05:56 PM // 17:56	#26
Rinadan Farhunt Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In the land of the horny gollochs. Guild: To Rise From The Ashes [Rise] Profession: R/W	Mine would have to be this: In the beginning, it was really a very nice guild. But then a complete arse was made officer. He then started to be offensive to most of our members and to go into detail about sexual activity on alliance chat. I gathered a group of other guild members (including another officer) who wanted this guy demoted, and for once he was sensible and decided to resign. Guild leader comes on next day. Arse is re-promoted (despite all the protests from many guild members). I leave. About 3-4 months later, the same officer who I was friends with and who had sided with me against the Arse asked me to come back. Arse had gone. Along with over half the guild, to form their own guild, because Arse + co had started a big argument, camps were formed, etc. So, now most of the remaining members are inactive. After this great disaster, the leader's method of helping the guild was to bugger off on holiday for a month without designating someone to be in charge while she was gone, and leaving no instructions. I agree to come back. Officers haven't got a clue what they should do, my friend says he asked me back because of my good organisation/command abilities, so it seemed to fall to me to save my once-favourite guild. I rallied the officers and remaining active members to confront the leader when she returned. I told her what she should do to help the situation (I had seen this happen before), and she did everything I said, and now the guild is well on the way to recovery. What thanks did I get? After being leader for 2-3 weeks in all but name, I was given a promotion to officer, and the leader now ignores myself and the two other officers (one of which was promoted without the consent or even knowledge of myself and the other officer). We have no say in anything, her decision is apparently final, and I don't really want to speak out because that could undo all my work and start the arguing/camps/leaving all over again...

Oct 21, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15	#28
Angelo Dorato Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: Symphony of Frost and Flame [Burn]	My worst guild experience was when I first started playin GW. I wasnt totally noob at the game ( ) as I had a friend who had been playin for over a year, and taught me prette much anything to hav a basic knowledge. A random guy PM's me to get into his guild. I eagerly accept, and enter his guild. It was a small guild, nearly 20 members, and I very quickly enterd the group. We started havin fun, talking to eachother on TS just for the fun of it, stayed up till late just to say some BS and laugh together. I was made officer after the first month. I got into a very good friendship with the 2 leaders and this girl officer. Especially with the girl (dont think bad, im 16 and she was like 20 XD ). The Thing that killed me and my relationship with this wonderful guild, was her. She had this kind of "love" for the guild leader, and for some reason, he ddnt relle "follow" her as she wanted. Now, I have to say that during those times I started to play GW, I wasnt relle feelin that well, had alot of problems in RL, and GW was prette much, with thoese guildies, the only way I felt better, as they could cheer me up relle good, especially this girl, which I got into a relle good friendship, or so I thought... Coming back to the story, she one day PM'ed me tellin me that she wanted to leave the guild, for the guild leader (1 of the 2) had been a real arse with her, makin her cry (heard her on TS doing so...). As she relle had helped me (in my RL as I stated b4) I followed her out of the guild, makin the leaders both pissed, as I was one of the most active/frendly players in the guild. She joined a friend's guild, and invited me too in it. Couple week passed, and she slowly started to ignore me, slowly, but still it could be felt. That's where I found out what "friendship" for her actually was. Using people to get money/weps/favors. Nothing else. I got relle angry finding that out, and cutted all the connections I had with her. I tried to talk to the old guild leaders, but they wouldnt listen, even tho they knew the truth I was telling them. Now im in a Dutch guild even tho I'm Italian. Luckly for my (not perfect but decent) english skills, we can communicate and hav alot of fun. Been nearly 3 months I guess now, and I'm happy where I am

Oct 22, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46	#29
Thorondor Port Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: British Columbia Profession: W/	Too many hoh guilds to name...but I wish some of them stuck around for more than a week. Also, the tons of spiritway guilds. Just too boring to play repetitively.

Oct 26, 2007, 01:39 PM // 13:39	#31
Akaten Talon Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Soldiers of Won [SoW] Profession: W/Mo	ITs a GAME dude lol "Bitter end" whats that Lol. Back on topic. I would have to say my worst experience would be when i joined a guild and they all switched to Runescape -_-yea I know its scary but try to stay calm. Talon

Oct 26, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54	#32
ZeRG! Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Guild: Arcana Knights [AK]	had 2 people leave yesterday cause i beat em in a scrim :\ They asked me to scrim them. and i had to play a warrior. so i played hammer war with counter blow. lol so i kept knocking them down and they raged and quit... wtf do they expect!! they had glads defense and troll unguent.. jesus.. haha

Oct 26, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05	#33
Goldleader Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Profession: Mo/Me	My worst experience: A year or so ago I was invited to join a top ranked guild in the game. In fact, they were the "guild of the week" around that time and seemed to have everything going for them. Then I login the day after being invited, only to find like 2 people online. I looked at the guild list, and everyone had logged out like 21-22 hours ago. I asked where everyone was and the leader said everyone usually logs in about 2-3 hours from now. Apparently they are west coasters, while I'm on the east coast. Damn 3 hour time difference! After about 2 weeks of not being online when the rest of them were, I ended up getting booted. Truth is, I was thinking of leaving anyhow, I was just depressed I was in a top ranked guild, but couldn't play when they could.

Oct 26, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23	#34
Billiard Doctor of Philosophy Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pacific Northwest Guild: Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us	Please keep things on topic, and don't name players, guilds, or alliances in posts.

Oct 26, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56	#35
jrk247 Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]	Worst guild experience. It's not really a guild experience but it has become one. The guild I'm in is the head of an alliance that was before this bad experience very strong and we were good friends. Then one day someone suggested we add a guild to the alliance and we added them. Then some time passed and they seemed alright. But after a few dramatic misunderstandings they started to act up. Our guild leader at the time was busy with real life issues and the officers had to deal with the drama the best they could with what power they had. So after a few of these misunderstandings a few of our members left and joined up with this guild and then they started whispering officers back and forth trying to gain support about some of these misunderstandings within the alliance. So they eventually left our alliance and took some of our good friends/guilds with them. And now after a few months our main leaders of our guild are getting PM's from the leader of the guild that was disband and reformed into another guild (she is no longer a guild leader). And several of our wiki pages have been vandalised from them and our guild wiki page. I find it funny that someone would try this much to cause people grief over a game. They still continue to "stalk" (yes that's what it seems like if you've seen all of what they've done) certain members. It's actually kinda sad to see someone spend so much time doing this and finding ways around security options in the game to do this. They aparently found a way around the ignore list in the game. I just hope this person grows up and realises it's just a game because this is going too far. And that is one of my worst guild experiences.

Oct 27, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40	#36
Issac Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earthrealm Profession: W/A	Same experience that most other people had. Was a leader of a guild and one of the officers kicked all the members etc etc lol.

Oct 27, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31	#37
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	Every guild I join dies because I suck the lifeforce out of them. This is true.

Oct 27, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56	#38
Alex Morningstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance Profession: Mo/	I doubt my experience was unique. We had a leader that never logged in, so the officers kept this large pve 80+ guild active and rolling, along with it's alliance of smaller, but budding guilds. People were constantly talking on guild chat and alliance chat, and it wasn't full of annoying 15 year olds that couldn't spell. When the leader did log on, she was hardly supportive of her 'staff' and compared us officers to slave drivers, when everyone knows you can't just let 80 members do whatever they want on guild/alliance chat or things deteriorate. Anyway, she was finally able to hand over the guild because once a month logging in wasn't enough. It wasn't to any one person either, but a mule account that the officers had the password to to keep it the way it had been for a year now, a counsel-like rule. The guild was going well, minus the undercurrent tension between leader and all her officers, the members took the transition and the news well and were hardly surprised, it was just making how it had been for a while official. Less than a day later, she logged in screaming that she changed her mind. We gave her back her spot and left, having had enough. We only stayed because other than her, this guild had absolutely wrong with it. It says a lot when all of your officers and then half your guild leave in the space of a week, the rest trickling away for the next couple of months. That leader, killed her 2 year old guild. 40 people left with us within a week, and we didn't have to whisper them telling them why, they just asked for invites. We were added to the alliance so that guildies could continue to hang out with those that stayed, but were ultimately kicked. A few days later, after 40 people left, she changed her mind. But it was too late and we still have the new guild with the same 40 people since conception, 8 months later. Plus, our name is cooler.

Oct 28, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35	#39
thedeadlyassassin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tualatin OR Guild: N/A Profession: A/W	My worst guild experience was when my guild got from rank 777 to rank N/A without tourneys. And they NEVER listened to everyone elses build, they were sure that a build that had no anti gank would work... so we always got ganked and lost.

Nov 02, 2007, 04:35 AM // 04:35	#40
Well99 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Nix Guild (NG) Profession: N/E	Pretty much the same story as everyone else.Guilds wanting you just to FF or if you dont pvp running their mouths about you doing it or else.I take the else.I am strickly PVE.I always let a recruiter know that.Also I would join a guild and no one helps out.I would jump in and in most cases others would not.A member for 2 days and I had helped more people then all combined.I thought that was what guilds were suppose to be about.You can farm anytime.It seemed like maybe 1 or 2 would actually help out in the guilds I joined.To me that seemed lame.Well I have my own guild and there is 2 of us.Only person I have invited is a old D friend.We use to always jump in and help folks in games especially Ancients in hell mode.Anyhow to make a short story long Guilds spend to much time recruiting and too little time retaining.